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correspondent ed henry live at the white house. somebody just tweeted me that jay carney should be on "dancing with the stars" because he was doing a lot of tap dancing today. >> second day in a row that carney was under fire getting tough questions from various people in the briefing room. the key question, this ben rhodes e-mail we've been talking about, these talking points helping prepare susan rice, then the u.s. ambassador to the united nations for those five appearances on the sunday talk shows, the question being, was this about benghazi or not? jay carney saying for the second straight day, they did not turn over this document for well over a year because it was not about benghazi, even though we now know that it was turned over in the last few days because judicial watch was demanding documents about what? benghazi. that's why i asked this question -- if the e-mail was not about benghazi as you said yesterday and you say again today, why did the white house turn it over to a conservative group seeking information about benghazi?

>> you would have to ask the state department about how they responded to foia requests. i would again point you to the fact -- all you have to do is read it, ed, right? >> all you have to do is read it. well, we've read that e-mail from ben rhodes. and, yes, to jay carney's point, it was about broader stuff about the violence in the mideast, cairo and elsewhere. but it also included benghazi. in fact, in one of my follow-ups when i pressed jay carney, he quoted from the e-mail and said, here's the section on benghazi which was in the e-mail. so that is why you have republicans like john mccain out today directly using the word "cover-up" saying, why wasn't this turned over sooner. >> ed, good questioning there. but it wasn't just you. fox has been out in front of this story from the get-go. but do you feel like there's a change in the briefing room amongst reporters? >> you're starting to see more reporters press on this issue, certainly there were questions yesterday and today from john

carl of abc news, major garrett of cbs as well as jim acosta from cnn who started off the questioning before john carl did. so there were multiple people on this. and yet when i jumped in today, i was off yesterday, just back from asia after a long flight. jay carney started going after fox and saying, your bosses, he said, are just disappointed that a conspiracy has not been proven here. but listen to what jim acosta pressed him on from cnn. >> november of 2012, the president said, i think it's important to find out what happened in benghazi and i'm happy to cooperate in any ways that congress wants. we have provided every bit of information that we have -- >> right. >> that e-mail was not provided. >> have you read the e-mail, jim? >> there you see the question to the president right after the last election had said, we're going to turn over everything. this is one of the lingering questions. why wasn't this e-mail in particular turned over sooner, being pushed there by cnn. there are a whole series of

networks pushing on this very issue. and yet the attack came in against fox. why? i don't really know. but i'm not going to stop asking questions on this issue or any other issue. i did the same thing to the bush administration, by the way. >> okay. we're so glad you're asking the tough questions and frankly that the others are as well. about time. thanks, ed. meantime, back on capitol hill, dramatic testimony from the top intel officer in africa on the night of the benghazi terror attacks. retired generally robert lovell making it clear he never doubted it was a terror attack and telling lawmakers there should have been a military response. listen to this. >> did they ever tell you to go -- >> not to my knowledge, sir. >> we didn't run to the sound of the guns. they were issuing press releases. >> four individuals died, sir, we obviously did not respond in time to get there. >> could we have?

>> we may have been able to, but we'll never know. >> republican congressman jason chaffetz of utah sits on the oversight committee, obviously you were in that hearing today. congressman, great to see you again. he looked emotional when you were asking him about that because, lest we forget that four americans died in this attack. >> and that was the key point. i appreciate the general 33 years of service. he was heading up a group that was military intelligence too looking at the assets that were there and the perpetrators there. but he was in the room. it's the first time we've heard from somebody like this in a public setting. they moved some people forward but they weren't directed to go into benghazi and help save those people. it's just so sad. i asked him, what would you say to the parents of the people that lost these loved ones? and he got very emotional. >> did he ever respond to you or

does he even know why the state department allegedly did not tell them to go in? >> again, that's part of the reason we're still digging into this. first of all, we have men and women under the fight. we have americans dying -- we have a firefight on our hands. and the military has to ask permission of the state department? hillary clinton said she never spoke with president obama that night. i think it does go back to what was the state department directing? why didn't they ask to engage in the fight? for instance, we had a team that was going to go in and secure the compound in tripoli because we thought that was coming under attack. and yet the state department made the department of defense change uniforms. they didn't want them going in with the american flag on their shoulders. it's so offensive. >> while this hearing is going on, congressman, you just heard that jay carney was being peppered by questions by reporters. one of the things he said today is that the cover-up is bogus, this is a gop conspiracy theory. and you would say what?

>> well, they've tried to portray this as a phony scandal. but they've also said they provided all the information. as the cnn reporter said, how come you haven't provided all the information the president said. in the last 30 days, we've gotten 3,200 new documents. once the white house press corps gets past why didn't they get these documents about the direction on the talking points, they're going to start to ask, why is it that the white house was perpetuating this theory, this lie that it was a video that caused these attacks? because as i established today in the hearing, the state department never believed that. in fact, we told the libyan ambassador. you have the cia chief saying, it was not the video. it was not the video. he said it twice. then you have the person who heads up military intelligence there in libya for the united states military, and he said, no, we knew right away that it was al qaeda. i asked him if al qaeda was on the run or were they growing and

expanding? they were growing and expanding. >> there's another scandal i know you're intimately aware of. on the show the other day, you spilled the beans that maybe leader eric cantor would announce a contempt resolution for lois lerner. that it would come next week. now the official word has come from cantor. what are we to make of what will happen next week? >> they're going to have a drama. we'll have some debate on the floor of the house about this. then we'll get the vote. it will be very interesting to see what the democrats do on this. do we or do we not want the truth? are we or are we not going to try to get that truth? that's what's going to play out next week. it will happen with a floor vote and then there are a variety of options the house will have. >> congressman, thanks for your time. fox news delving deeper into the newly released e-mails about benghazi and the administration's changing narrative.

don't miss fox news reporting, white house cover-up revealed with bret baier, special airing this saturday at 10:00 p.m. eastern and on sunday at 9:00 eastern only here on the fox news channel. time to move on to the extreme weather, nasty weather pounding millions of americans. heavy rains causing dangerous flooding in parts of the northeast. in pennsylvania, roads look more like rivers. and a street in baltimore collapsing under railroad tracks. cars dangling over the edge. others dropping down the embankment. doug mckelway joins us. is that road now passable? >> not at all passable. homes have been evacuated and will remain so until authorities determine that this is safe. baltimore county fire and rescue put their emergency operations center into service yesterday afternoon because they were inundated with calls of flooded-out roadways, people stranded in flooded basements. but this by far and away got the most of their attention.

i'll get out of the way so you can take a better look at it here. about 3:30 yesterday afternoon, a retaining wall bordering the csx railroad tracks began to sag heavily and collapsed, taking at least ten cars deep into the hole. remarkably, no injuries or fatalities. although authorities weren't entiriously sure of that until later this morning. but all of the homes along the unit block of 26th street in baltimore have been evacuated. they remain evacuated until authorities can determine that they're safe. we spoke to one man whose house is only about 100 feet from the collapse. he said for months, this sidewalk had been leaning heavily. >> i've noticed you park at an angle next to the sidewalk. if you were to put a ball on your windshield, it would roll down to the other side. >> have people reported it to authorities? >> from what i've heard, yeah, yeah, they have. i heard on the radio this

morning on all the talk shows, people have been report ing it for three years. >> we have heard this stretch of csx railroad tracks is absolutely vital. every freight train that comes out of the port of baltimore heading either to the north, west or south, has to go through these tracks and through that tunnel which was built in 1895. first became operational back then. they are unable to do so. they're rerouting trains as far west as ohio. >> doug, thank you. chilling new audiotapes the moment a the south korean ferry began to sink. listen to this. plus, since retiring nasa's shuttle program, the u.s. has been shelling out millions of bucks to hitch a ride with the russians to the space station.

so why is one of their top leaders suggesting now americans hop on a trampoline to get up there? and we brought you this fiery train derailment yesterday. what it means for the city's water supply now. is it safe?

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heartbreaking video time line now to the disaster in the south korea ferry sinking as cell phone clips from high school students, they were on board that doomed ship and they're now telling the story. when the ship first started tipping, there seemed to be a sense of excitement. but emotions quickly changed.

>> nearly 200 bodies recovered so far. more than 80% of the victims were only in high school. members of the house armed services committee, meeting now with top secret service clearance getting an update on ukraine from the military commander of nato. philip breedlove giving a closed-door meeting on troop treatment. this new video showing how bad things are getting. the general telling reporters that russia has a lot of options and their options are only growing day by day. general jack keen served is a fox news military analyst. russia's options growing day by day. what does that mean for ukraine? >> ukraine's in a difficult spot, no doubt about it. ever since they forced yanukovych out of ukraine, the fact of the matter is russia has been trying to get that government to move away from europe and to move into a relationship with him. that's what this intimidation is

about. he's going to keep up the pressure until that government moves in his direction. there's an election coming on the 25th of may. while this intimidation will keep going and growing prior to that election to be sure. >> a lot of people say, general, why not? if you're of the mindset of putin, which most peel arenople, why not enroach? >> we could if we got tough. the sanctions are feeble, to be frank. we have restrictions on people as opposed to industry. we know we can get really tough on putin because we've done wit iran. if we did sanctions on sectors like energy, like the finance and banking system, like the defense sector, it would truly hurt him, given the fact that his economy is almost in recession right now. >> so the question is, why are we not doing that? and sit simply only this administration and the united states or is it that we can't get the help of the european

leaders as well because they may have more to lose? >> well, i think you're partly right there. the europeans clearly do not want to do as much as the united states is willing to do right now. but i think this is where the united states steps up and leads. and the fact of the matter, i think the europeans would follow. but we would probably have to initiate the tough sanctions first. i think the reason why the administration isn't as tough as they should be is because their policy is fear of escalation. so they're constantly talking about de-escalation. and the fact is, putin escalates regardless of the rhetoric. >> of course. there's a little snippet of something interesting going on in all these discussions. a top russian official angered by u.s. sanctions threatened retaliation against our space program. here's what he said, general, in a quote, i propose that the united states delivers its astronauts to the international space station with the help of a trampoline. really? is that really going to happen? >> no. >> but the threat is he's

saying, actions -- you put actions against us, we'll put actions against you. what does it mean for our space program? >> i think the administration doesn't want to lose russia' support on iran, russia's support on afghanistan. we know we're at odds with them over syria. i don't think the space program has been a major issue in terms of the administration's consideration about this crisis. the fact of the matter is, i don't agree with the fact that we're dependent on russia to get to our own international space station that we largely put together ourselves with the help from others. but the fact of the matter is, we are dependent on russians to get in space. >> but maybe they're dependent on our $60 million per astronaut to go up there. general, always great to get your insights. thank you so much. >> always good talking to you, gretchen. fiery drain derailment. now an investigation into just how much oil really went up in flames. plus the danger it could pose to the area's water supply. it may be known as the sunshine state.

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river is only used as a water source during times of drought. back to benghazi now, because the new documents including the ben rhodes e-mail highlighting what some are calling the big picture in the scandal, that the white house used the intelligence community for its own political purposes and essentially misled the american public about the terror attack in order to win a presidential election. for a look at the legal implication, time to bring in geraldo rivera, fox news senior respond. those are loaded claims there. >> they are. >> could there possibly be charges if it was ever proven that this administration lied to the american public to try and win an election? >> that's a brilliant question. let me just back up a little bit. today is the very day, three years ago, that the announcement came -- i happened to be on the air. it was a sunday night. it was my greatest night ever in my 40-plus years in broadcastingi broadcastinging. when we announced that osama bin laden was dead. a year and a half after that,

this incident happened in benghazi. what happened during that year and a half from bin laden's death to the benghazi tragedy in the r and the four american heroes being cut down there? what happened was the president went on a triumphant tour. look what i did. i have eradicated the man who butchered 3,000 americans. al qaeda is dead. general motors is alive and that was his narrative going into his reelection campaign. and it was hugely successful. what happened in the meantime? before the november 2012 election, on september 11th, 2012, there was an attack on our consulate in benghazi. it was clear from the documents now revealed that the administration knew almost immediately that it was a terror attack. but there was enough wiggle room given what happened in cairo and throughout the arab world -- >> still enough wiggle room in your mind? >> i think that to prove that a crime was committed is extremely difficult because what was lied about -- what was spun was an

analysis -- it wasn't a material fact in this sense, gretchen. if there was a memo that said, mr. president, we know for a fact that this was an al qaeda attack on that day and the president lied about having received the memo, that's perjury. but that's not what happened. >> but some say we have four dead bodies and even in watergate, for example, nobody died. >> that is profound and true. but it doesn't make the criminal case any more provable, any more specific. you need a lie about something that is provable. you can't lie about -- >> what about jay carney today? two days in a row, many people would say he's lying when he stands up there. >> i absolutely agree that he seems squishy, he seems squirmy, to be bending the truth. but how can you prove that jay carney himself beyond a reasonable doubt believed x, y, z and was saying a, b, c?

carney will say, my opinion of the video is -- and to nail him or anyone in that administration from the state department, from hillary clinton on to the cia or to the military -- let me say briefly one thing. we missed the boat by trying to pin the lack of a military response on the white house. the military said they couldn't do anything. we should have left that alone and gone after this -- this was always the -- >> a lot of other elements to this story including that very revealing e-mail. i have to wrap it there. we have breaking news. is there a new call from congress for secretary kerry to testify on the hill regarding benghazi? plus, the florida governor has new allegations about v.a. hospitals in his state. we'll talk about that. plus the devastation in the south. and the new survey of white house reporters providing some insight into the last two administrations. our political panel will talk transparency. who was more transparent, bush or obama?

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fox news alert to tell you about right now. house speaker john boehner now calling on secretary of state john kerry to answer questions under oath on benghazi. he says, quote, if the white house won't explain it, secretary kerry should come to the capitol to explain why he defied an official congressional subpoena and the white house needs to understand this investigation will not end until the entire truth is revealed and justice and accountability are

served, end quote. i think he's referring to that e-mail, of course, that's just come to light, thanks to judicial watch. the president of that organization will be joining me in a few moments. in the meantime, back to the bad weather because deadly twisters hitting several states this week. part of more than 100 confirmed tornadoes tearing across the country this year. nine hitting mississippi on monday, including an ef4 in louisville and two ef3s in tupelo and richland. our chief meteorologist is in the extreme weather center. i hear the united states has more tornadoes than any other place in the world. is that true and why? >> yeah, it's a great question. i think loch people assume that tornadoes happen all across the world. in general, they do happen in a lot of places around the world. but across the united states, we have more than any other place, by a large factor. just quickly, we'll tell you just recapping this last little storm, take a look at this, before the storm this week, we

had 121 tornadoes. the last few days, 116. still below our average for this time of year. but we have a long severe weather season to go. to tell you exactly why this happens, there are a few very specific things that only happen in the u.s. and it's all about the way the land mass is set up. the first thing is, across canada, we have a thing called continental polar air. this is air that is very, very cold because it is not influenced by the water. that's the first thing that's in place. then we have the rocky mountains. because of their north-south orientation, that allows the winds to move down and bring that cold air mass farther south into the mainland usa than would typically happen in a lot of other places. also, most of the u.s. is between 30 and 60 degrees latitude. and during the spring, that's where the jet stream is. the strongest upper level winds. that's one of the ingredients you need to start to get that wind veering and start the rotation. and the last thing is, the gulf of mexico, gretchen, is one of

the warmest bodies of water this far north. so you get a lot of moisture here. those ingredients come together and make the u.s. the highest amount of tornadoes of any place in the world. it's a very unique and unfortunate distinction that we have here. >> no doubt. thanks so much for the analysis, rick. >> you bet. let's go down to florida. folks in north florida and the panhandle face a daunting task after getting soaked by nearly two feet of rain in 24 hours. hundreds of people had to be rescued. joining me in tallahassee, florida governor, rick scott. great to see you again, governor. >> gretchen, congratulations on your own show. >> thank you so much. i wish it was under better circumstances for your state. tell us about the destruction that you've been seeing over the last days. >> yesterday i spent the day in pensacola. you know we had probably 22-plus inches of rain there. i talked to the citizens. we had over 300 individuals that had to be evacuated. one lady, 80 years old, was by herself. had lived in the same house for over 50 years. had never seen water on the

street in front of her. woke up in the middle of the night with 3 inches of rain, of water in her house. and then by morning, the entire road was washed out. lost power, lost the sewage system. everything's gone. and your heart goes out to these people. >> of course. we're seeing all the pictures and the video alongside you as you speak there. i want to get your thoughts as well on a growing scandal over the treatment of veterans at v.a. centers. govern governor, you say state health inspectors in your state have been turned away when they show up at v.a. hospitals. expound upon that. >> isn't that hard to believe? my father was in the 82nd airborne. i served in the navy. i want to make sure every veteran in our state gets good quality health care. we see stories about veterans that have died. so we said, we're taking immediate action. our state agency for health care administration normally inspects

facilities. so we said, we'll use our own agency to create transparency. our veterans, their families deserve to know what's happening. we want transparency. went to our v.a. facilities and they turned them away. all we're trying to do is help our v.a. facilities, help them -- what can we improve, how can we make sure veterans are getting good care? and they were just turned away. no explanation. >> how can that happen? i know that you also requested information from the facilities themselves, right, about possible -- >> absolutely. >> denials and they didn't respond back to the governor of florida asking for the information? >> no. >> how can that be? >> it makes no sense. we're there to help. our state agency helps all of our other health care facilities in the state, helped them improve their care. all we're wanting is to make sure our veterans have the information. they need transparency so they know the care they're getting, their families need to know the care they're getting. and they turned them away. we work with the federal

government on a a lot of issues. this one, they just turned us away. i have no idea why. >> can you get the inspector general involved, like is the case in phoenix, arizona? >> they won't give us information. we continue to try to get information from the v.a. we've continued to talk to the v.a. in washington. and they won't give us information. >> wow. >> but the worst is, our agency that does this for our other health care facilities was absolutely turned away with no logical reason. >> keep us up to date on that because we continue to follow this story here on "the real story" and we are not going to give up on it. governor, always great to see you. >> thank you, gretchen. very interesting survey asking white house reporters, which administration they consider more forthcoming with information. president george w. bush's or president obama's? the results from the political poll were pretty lopsided. 41% said president bush's was more transparent. only 5% answered president obama's. 13% said about the same.

and 41% weren't sure. tony sayegh and bernard whitman are my guests today. bernard, how are you going to spin this one? >> this is why you should never trust pollsters, number one. >> you're a pollster! >> in my polls, we have a lot more than 61 respondents. it says number one, all the characterize and criticisms of the liberal bias in the media clearly weren't apparent in this poll because most of the people sided with george w. bush. >> no, no, no. this was mainstream media, people who participated in this poll was mainstream media. so try again. >> it was reporters. so i think what we find here is this -- the obama administration set themselves up, huge expectations, high expectations to be the most transparent government in history. have they lived up to that? no. they failed. but i'll say this. they've done a number of things that are positive. number one, every white house visitor is logged. number two, more data than ever

before -- >> i have to get you in here. even if the obama administration hadn't claimed to be the most transparent ever, they probably would have answered the same way because they're living it every day trying to get information -- the reporters i'm talking about. >> the lack of transparency has been something the president has done in other areas of his administration. they get shut out of things. we see prosecutions of people based on leaks increasing. so that creates potentially a chilling effect on the press. and we've also seen the press realizing that this is an administration that without just holding back information actually is going to be punitive if you disagree with them. fox news is a perfect example of that. >> quotes from the mainstream media, put them up on the screen. jonathan carl, by going outside the white house, to congress, the pentagon, the state department or the political world. from the outside in is from reuters.

get it from the hill first is from the a.p. work around the walls of them saying no is fox news. tweet something they disagree with, "associated press." bernard, they don't seem to think you can get answers at all from the white house. >> i don't think that's actually the case. if you look at the rest of the poll, the vast majority of said the white house -- it shows the difference between campaigning and governing. obama had a much easier time saying, we're going to be incredibly transparent than actually recorded on the history -- >> you think? >> 61% of people that responded in this poll say they'd like to see the briefings change because you can't trust jay carney anymore. benghazi is a perfect example. but even jill abrahamson from "the new york times" has called this the most secretive administration in history. >> we covered that here on "the real story." we have to go. i've got to go. john scott in for shepard smith

today. >> next time you leave a comment on a website, could you be sued? and what about the website? could it be sued for your thoughts? that's essentially the question going before a court of appeals. the case centers around comments about a former nfl cheerleader and high school teacher who had sex with one of her students. this case could go all the way to the supreme court and could have a huge impact on how we all use the web. we'll break it down in the next hour. >> thanks, john. benghazi heating up on the hill. >> you dismissed the idea that this attack was, in fact, a demonstration that went awry and was based on a youtube video out of los angeles? >> yes, sir, short answer. >> thank you. >> we're going to talk to the head of the organization that brought the latest controversial e-mails to light, they sued for them. and a report released by the malaysian government just hours ago on what actually happened to flight 370. and it reveals just how many minutes passed before air traffic controllers realized the plane was actually missing. it's stunning.

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new developments on benghazi rolling in by the minute, sparking new calls for a select committee to further investigate the attack. so what is a select committee? pretty much like any other, it has a staff, funding and the power to subpoena. but it gives congress a way to centralize investigations. past examples include watergate. but it must be approved by either or both bodies of congress. and in the house, speaker boehner has been hesitant to appoint one. meantime, the white house not budging an inch on benghazi, defending its position that newly surfaced e-mails have nothing to do with the attack. the white house press secretary referring questions to the state

department today. listen to this. >> if the e-mail was not about benghazi as you said yesterday and you say again today, why did the white house turn it over to a conservative group seeking information about benghazi? >> you would have to ask the state department about how they responded to foia requests. i would again point you to the fact that -- all you have to do is read it, ed. right? >> tom fitton is the president of judicial watch, the organization that obtained those new documents and e-mails. great to have you back, tom. we should be clear that the only way you obtained those e-mails and documents is because you sued the government, right? >> that's right. and the government was forced to promise to a court to turn them over to us. and we finally got them april 17th or so. and to hear jay carney talk about it like that, the fact is, susan rice evidently was briefed using that document. and that document that wasn't about benghazi, the points on it susan rice used to talk about benghazi. she used all those points that jay carney says wasn't about

benghazi and used it to explain the benghazi attack in a false way, obviously. >> obviously this has been their new mode of operation because for the second day in a row today, jay carney went right back to that same defense that so many people thought was jaw-dropping yesterday, right? >> yeah, i think so. and i think it's a legal question now for jay carney and the white house generally, the obama administration, it was a congressional subpoena for which this document would have been responsive to. and now they need to distinguish this document from all the other benghazi documents. the way to do that is pretend it wasn't about benghazi. >> that's interesting because we just heard that the speaker of the house, john boehner, wants to call secretary kerry to come and testify to that exact point, why that e-mail was not included in the documents that congress also subpoenaed. in the meantime, i want you to listen to nancy pelosi, because she seems to think benghazi is a non-story. >> diversion subterfuge,

benghazi, benghazi, benghazi. why aren't we talking about something else? what i know of what i've read in the press about the e-mails were very consistent with what was put out there before. i don't think there's anything new there. >> and you say what to that? >> she should read the e-mails. they can go to judicialwatch.org and read them. the subterfuge obviously is coming from the white house, jay carney and for nancy pelosi as a member of congress to treat as a non-issue congress' investigation being thwarted and obstructed is really terrible. the problem here in washington, if it's your party scandal, you defend it to the hilt. and that's the reason you need groups like judicial watch and independent news like fox news that call it how you see it no matter the implications for parties. and nancy pelosi and honest democrats need to say to

president obama and the obama administration, own up, release all the info and stop messing with us. >> so what do you make of the speaker of the house in that breaking development, calling secretary of state kerry to come and testify as to why that e-mail -- the ben rhodes e-mail that we've been talking about for the last 24 hours, why that was not given to members of congress when they also subpoenaed it? >> i think that's a fair area of inquiry. and my response to speaker boehner would be, which committee would he go testify to? there are five investigative committees and that's been one of the problems. there needs to be a select committee that can elevate and focus this scandal in a more appropriate way so that the american people have confidence that it's being examined in a more serious way than to date. >> i know that you're staying on this story. tom fitton, always great to get your developing thoughts. thank you. >> thank you. we're getting new information on that missing malaysian airlines jet. a new report providing a time line of just how long it took

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traffic control tower in kuala lumpur. >> that was at 1:19 in the morning. 370 is supposed to contact vietnam. at 1:21:04. kuala lumpur and vietnam pick up 370 on radar. at 1:21.16. the plane disappears, either kuala lumpur did not see it disappears or didn't do anything because they didn't know ms. was wrong until the war contactedded and said they failed to get verbal contact with flight 370 and that's when the kuala lumpur tower con can tacted hock

congress, cambodia and singapore to see if they had seen or heard from the plane and up in of them had. >> so 17-minute span where nothing is going on. then we talk about the four hours span. why so long to actually start searching for it? >> we know from the report there was apparently some confusion the first two hours, and the confusion was between the tower in kuala lumpur and the operations center from malaysian airlines. at 2:03 in the morning, malaysian airlines operationser in tells the tower in kuala lumpur, that airline 370 is in cambodian air space. the tower calls cambodia and they say it's not. at 2:18 the airline tells kuala lumpur the airliner is in vietnam. they called vietnam and it's not there, either. it wasn't until 3:35 in the morning, about an hour, two hours after the plane went missing, that the airline finally acknowledged it did not

have precise tracking on this and that's when the realized something was bad. why it took two additional hours to get search crews out in the water is still unclear at this point. we're still reading how to the report. >> so, a mom bonding with her son, working ought together at a top fitness club. why she says that was all it took for the club to revoke her membership. >> just working out, and she came -- she helped me with my form and stuff and that's all. ♪

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possible answer to a mystery. ever wonder what used to hold the ancient pyramids together during the billing process? a new study finds it was water. the water acted like glue and kept grains of sand in place. then there's the story of an l.a. gym kicking a mom and her son out for pumping iron.

she says after she worked out with her son they revoked her membership for training him. crazy. thank you for about part of the "the real story." now john scott in for shepard smythe, live from the fox news deck. >> thank you. the malaysian government releasing a report on the disappearance of flight 370, now we know just how long it took for controllers to realize the jet had disappeared and that's not all. for the first time we're hearing from one of the jurors who convicted a minnesotaç7ñ?ñ?r murder for shooting two teenagers in his home. the juror telling us which peas of evidence made up his mind. and rob ford, what have you done now? the crack-smoking mayor of toronto starring in new recordings. wait until you see what he does. the back and forth over benghazi is reaching its boiling point with new accusations flying in both